Project CARS

E30 M3 Group A Goodness

Tis game looks very sweet indeed. I also updated my computer with a bunch of stuff (CPU/RAM/Mainboard) Looking forward to release.

JamieWhincup#1 wrote:

E30 M3 Group A Goodness

Love the "We-Don't-Have-The-Official-Licence" Radical, Audi and Mercedes cars...

Anyone can make a replay look pretty, it's the gameplay test that sets this apart. I really love helmet cam. Don't know if you guys tried this yet. Its wonderful. So realistic. With a race of any length you get dirt and spots and crap visually represented. Also, loving the way photograph flashes go off in a race. Makes you feel like you're doing the real deal. This makes shift look like last decades game. I really fear for forza five if they get even half the licences.

They have Bathurst and a V8 Supercar to race on it. I'm 50% sold right there with 2 elements. Gaming issues pending, Turn10 are going to have to pull out so many trump cards for me to stay with them.

Project CARS is coming to the PC, Xbox 360, Playstation 3 and Wii U in 2014

SG1 RAZOR wrote:

Project CARS

Project CARS is coming to the PC, Xbox 360, Playstation 3 and Wii U in 2014

Thought I recognised that video...

Dektra wrote:I know this is peak PC graphics... but Holy Jesus...


You need to up this to 1080p

Mine has cooler music

In other news. I'm guessing it will be ported to the Xbox-III and PS-IV on release, or shortly after

^^^ Hell yes

Make sure you have a killa PC if you wanna run it like this. I'm very interested to see how it runs on the xbox 360. With the PC if I run a hotlap in the dry, I get 70-80 fps but if I run the rain it drops to 28-30 fps.

crimson eagle73 wrote:Make sure you have a killa PC if you wanna run it like this. I'm very interested to see how it runs on the xbox 360. With the PC if I run a hotlap in the dry, I get 70-80 fps but if I run the rain it drops to 28-30 fps.

Pretty sure 30fps is what the xbox 360 currently runs at, a cheap soloution to getting higher fps is to crossfire or sli two cheaper graphics cards, example being two 1gb HD 7770 in cossfire mode gives better performance than a 3GB HD 7950 at more than $100 cheaper while also pushes the GTX 580 and beats it in some test with higher fps and alot less power consumption. Half decent CPU and motherboard to support Crossfire or SLI with 8gb ram job done, cheap and excellent performer pc on single monitor.

Referance http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4572/sapphire_radeon_hd_7770_1gb_oc_video_cards_in_crossfire/index13.html

Just spent $500 upgrading CPU Memory and mainboard. I aint going to buy another $300 for another Card.

Be aware that the Nvidia 700 series cards are probably gonna drop either at the end of the year or the start of the next, so the price of the 600 series cards are gonna drop with that release.

I'd also recommend the Nvidia cards over the AMD's simply due to the fact that Nvidia drivers are so much better than AMD's, and the only game that AMD has a clear advantage in performance over their Nvidia counterparts (excluding TITAN, thats gonna be the absolute best for a very long time) is Metro 2033. You can rattle off 3Dmark stats all you want, but that doesn't always equate into actual game performance.

That said, if the 700 series is substantially better, i'll load off my GTX670 to one of you guys if you haven't found a graphics solution by then.


Also Crimson, surely theres a graphics setting to reduce the quality of the water effects to improve FPS in that situation?

Opps this looks lik smart guy stuff, i must be in the wrong place. But the game looks shiny

Envy The Best wrote:


Also Crimson, surely theres a graphics setting to reduce the quality of the water effects to improve FPS in that situation?

Yes.. you can turn some things down or off and it'll give you a few FPS more but it looks worse and you don't get that much of a boost. The builds change every week FPS jumps, goes down, goes up. It all depends on what they are doing during the week. From what I've read there has been a little optimization but not to the level of a completed game. In most cases I'm getting pretty decent FPS right now. I'm sure the water effects , which look so fantastic, are not optimized. SO far my favorite moment is going across the top of the mountain at dusk with rain making the track nice and shiny and drops moving across the bonnet. Clouds billowing in the distance, hiding most, but not all, of the lit buildings. It's madness but I love it.

Just had a bit of a clean up in here and reopened the thread.
Play nice, and if in doubt, hold your tongue.
Oh, and read this

OD, you forgot to actually unlock, just did it for ya lol

crimson eagle73 wrote:OD, you forgot to actually unlock, just did it for ya lol

heheh - sorry folks. Got a pile on my mind right now. :-)
Thanks Crimson.

pCARS platforms.



I think we should stop work on PS3 and Xbox 360 and use those resources to make a start on the PS4 and Xbox One.

We'd continue with WiiU and of course PC.

Thoughts?

(Additional SMS Staff opinions - Editing...)






Originally Posted by Ian Bell

My rough thinking to keep things fair is this. IF you guys (all of us) decide to go this route. We could take say 35% of the profits from Next gen and pay them into the fund for current gen investors. This in addition to PC and WiiU feels fair. It's very ballpark and a guestimate but we have to start somewhere.

Of course, we may all decide to continue as is. It will go to a poll, it will be your call.





Originally Posted by Andy Garton

It makes a lot of sense, primarily because schedule wise we'll likely "miss the boat" of catching the tail end of current gen game sales. Also our super quality PC assets will work effectively as is on next gen, yet need cutting back quite a bit for current gen, thus losing one of the ways we beat the competition.

Also working on new stuff is more fun





Originally Posted by Ged Keaveney

Having the PS3/360 in addition to PC, WiiU, PS4 and Xbox One will spread us too thin I believe.

The engine is designed to be scaled for multiple platforms, which it does, however there is still a fair amount of platform specific code that needs to be maintained and updated. Also regardless of the engine tech each platform represents a large cost to the team, especially during Alpha/Beta/Final periods where platform specific testing, bug fixing, TRCs and submissions need to be handled on a per platform basis.

Doing that across all platforms will be a big hit in terms of cost and dev focus. Technically we can do it, our engine will always be scaleable and it will be required still for WiiU and lower perfomance PCs, however removing two of the low perfomance platforms will free up a chunk of time and cost that can be better spent on polishing and finalising the other platforms and making sure they hit the shelf in a solid state.

Another thing to consider in terms of Forza/GT, they're already working on the new platforms and will have been doing so for a long time now.
They're also obviously only focused on one platform each.
This means we have to be at the top of our game to compete otherwise we're always chasing, having to focus time on two 7 yr old consoles doesn't help us keep up.





Originally Posted by Vittorio Rapa

It could be worth to review the profit returns span time if we'll decide to move to the new gen consoles. Actually it is 2 years, that are more than enough for the current platforms (most of the sales are concentrate in the first months). The situation may be different with the new consoles: initially the user base will be lower and it would be safe to increase that time, to cover the new users that will hopefully buy the game in a longer period of time. I've talked to Ian about this and, if the plan kicks in, he agreed to extend it to 3 years for the new gen consoles.





Originally Posted by Andy Tudor

Project CARS and indeed our company has always been about pushing the boundaries - both technologically, aesthetically, in gameplay, and pioneering new development methods & models.

You'll always see me stating publicly that platform-wise we play to each's strengths. Whilst Xbox One and PS4 will initially have a smaller installed base, they also have greater strengths in terms of power, functionality, and consumer appeal.

As you've seen, the future is hotting up for racing games with Sony & Microsoft continuing their respective franchises, and titles like DriveClub and NFS: Rivals already making announcements for next-gen.

As you've all been party to, Project CARS has already been a next-gen experience for a while so officially placing it on Xbox One and PS4 would not only align it with the competition better but potentially aid the project on the technical side due to their architecture.

Part of me thinks its a good thing for them to get rid of dev costs for the soon to be obsolete consoles. The other part of me thinks it's a major mistake ignoring the huges market. There will be no more forza on the box. So Pcars could get all those sales. I would imagine lots of guys here would get it if it had Bathurst, v8 Fords, SPA, Brands Hatch, Open wheel racing, as many laps as you want, weather, damage and a details handling system tried and tested by thousands of testers throughout the process.
If it moves to the next box I suspect it will be a me-too title and the sales of Forza will make this title a non event. Not sure about PS4 though. since GT6 will release on the PS3

Oh My Goodness. I know this is highest end PC. But Wow.

crimson eagle73 wrote:

Oh My Goodness. I know this is highest end PC. But Wow.

I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FAPS FOR THIS

pause at 1:48-1:51, Bathurst? Anyway, maybe OZPC?

edit: Oh, it seems bathurst is old news for this game, nevermind

Interesting that that trailer includes Xbox360 at the end.

It is my understanding that this is coming to Xbox. Maybe Ryan's reference to OZPC stands for OZProjectCars.