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Re: 2014 Formula One Discussion
Haha funny guy. Slightly overreacting perhaps? Meh
Fast forward to 16.02 for the best bit.
Fast forward to 16.02 for the best bit.
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http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24239/9231815/christian-horner-reveals-why-red-bull-are-extremely-confident-of-winning-appeal
Well then.
The World Champions argument centres on the wording of the FIA's Technical Regulations with Article 5.1.4 stating "Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h". However, as it does not say that this reading has to come from the FIA's sensor Red Bull feel they can use their own measurements to prove they did not breach the regulations.
"Our whole case is on the fact of which reading is correct," the Team Principal added.
"We have a sensor that is drifting and isn't reading correctly versus a fuel rail that we know is calibrated and we know that hasn't varied throughout the weekend and has subsequently been checked and found to be not faulty and hasn't moved or varied at all since it was installed on the car prior to the weekend.
"Our argument is very simple - that we haven't broken the Technical Regulations. That we haven't exceeded the fuel flow limit and that the sensor, which hopefully we will be able to demonstrate in the appeal, is erroneous.
Well then.
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So now Porsche is jumping on the "your fuel flow sensors are shit!" bandwagon
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/porsche-critical-of-f1-fuel-flow-meter/
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/porsche-critical-of-f1-fuel-flow-meter/
Porsche has been outspoken in its criticism of the ultrasonic fuel flow meter used in Formula 1. The German marque will use the meter in its new 919 LMP1 this year. In the LMP1 category gasoline fuelled cars must run with two sensors identical to the units at the heart of Red Bull’s disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix. Cars running on diesel fuel must run three, but Porsche says that there is ‘no robust solution’ to the measuring process and doubts that there will be this season.
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HAHAHA HOLY WOW. And here I was expecting RBR to cop a fine or something...
Isnt it funny how quicky a quadruple world championship winning constructor can look and sound like a bunch of amateurs.
AND Im not going to go point out the obvious or make any snide comments (here I go anyway), but isn't it also really funny how these things never happen to Vettel?*
*Comments made with deep hatred and resent toward RBR and its history with MW. Also with great hope of seeing DR do well. Slightly biased comments may result... Haha
Isnt it funny how quicky a quadruple world championship winning constructor can look and sound like a bunch of amateurs.
AND Im not going to go point out the obvious or make any snide comments (here I go anyway), but isn't it also really funny how these things never happen to Vettel?*
*Comments made with deep hatred and resent toward RBR and its history with MW. Also with great hope of seeing DR do well. Slightly biased comments may result... Haha
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Frig me, that's harsh! 10 positions at the next race too? FIA's whole penalty system is just completely bogus, it shits me to tears when I hear all about F1 being a spectator sport, and then they go and do shit like this. An unsafe release at Malaysia should NOT carry over to China. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
What FIA have essentially done, albeit in a different context, is given him a slap on the wrist, and then punched him in the back of the head when he wasn't looking. Absolutely pathetic.
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sempeR wrote:HAHAHA HOLY WOW. And here I was expecting RBR to cop a fine or something...
Isnt it funny how quicky a quadruple world championship winning constructor can look and sound like a bunch of amateurs.
AND Im not going to go point out the obvious or make any snide comments (here I go anyway), but isn't it also really funny how these things never happen to Vettel?*
They did this to Mark at the Nurburgring last year. I was there. I was not happy.
I'm even less happy now.
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FIA
How Ricciardio gets a 10 place grid penalty for something that wasn't his fault yet Crashtor Crashdonado only gets a 5 place grid penalty for another one of his idiotic move resulting in Gutierrez flipping over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-iJ0UZRV_8
Also add this to the list of thing you never thought you would hear in F1 " Sebastian, Daniel is Faster than you. Let him through"
How Ricciardio gets a 10 place grid penalty for something that wasn't his fault yet Crashtor Crashdonado only gets a 5 place grid penalty for another one of his idiotic move resulting in Gutierrez flipping over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-iJ0UZRV_8
Also add this to the list of thing you never thought you would hear in F1 " Sebastian, Daniel is Faster than you. Let him through"
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Daniel's penalty was for the team screw up endangering more than just another driver (remember the camera man last year who copped a tyre in the head?). Penalty fits the crime but way too unfair to be handed to a driver who really had no control over it. Stop go and a big fine for the team would have been better.JamieWhincup#1 wrote:
How Ricciardio gets a 10 place grid penalty for something that wasn't his fault yet Crashtor Crashdonado only gets a 5 place grid penalty for another one of his idiotic move resulting in Gutierrez flipping over
I liked that. But is that still team orders? Like a Multi 21?JamieWhincup#1 wrote:
Also add this to the list of thing you never thought you would hear in F1 " Sebastian, Daniel is Faster than you. Let him through"
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I said i wasn't going to watch it so i could actually wake up for work. Then i watched it anyway.
No regrets, monster drive by Ricciardo, absolutely stellar
No regrets, monster drive by Ricciardo, absolutely stellar
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^^^Agreed. Best picture am definately stealing that for my facebooks page
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How did Vettel get back in front of Dan after their first stops? I feel like I missed something.
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I thought he did the under cut, Ricciardo pitted after him but got held up trying to pass. I think...
Good race but yeah! innit
Good race but yeah! innit
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Yeah that was awesome.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-15/fia-upholds-ricciardo-disqualification/5392556
Red Bull's Appeal rejected.
Red Bull's Appeal rejected.
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Disappointed but not unexpected, u can only fight the authority if ur in the wwe, lol.
Surprised with this quote from the report...
"Mercedes had come down hard on Red Bull, asking the judges to "impose a further sanction that is to be suspended until the end of the season" to prevent them from breaching the rules again."
Kick them while they are down!,
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Surprised with this quote from the report...
"Mercedes had come down hard on Red Bull, asking the judges to "impose a further sanction that is to be suspended until the end of the season" to prevent them from breaching the rules again."
Kick them while they are down!,
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Re: 2014 Formula One Discussion
Maldonado hits out as 2014 race ban looms
Pastor Maldonado has hit out at the new 'penalty points' system that could see him having to serve a race ban later in 2014.
After just the opening three Grands Prix of the season, the Venezuelan already has three 'demerit points' against his F1 super license.
Jules Bianchi, meanwhile, has four.
"I'm not sure if anyone will reach the full 12 but after three races, having four, then he should reach it very soon," Adrian Sutil said in China.
The most serious incident involving Lotus' Maldonado this year was in Bahrain, where contact with Esteban Gutierrez caused the Mexican to roll over.
But he also made a fundamental - and bizarre - mistake in Shanghai practice, when he took his eyes off the track and simply drove off it in a corner.
"I think it's a good system," Gutierrez, referring to penalty points, said in Shanghai.
"It puts some conscience on ourselves to not do wrong moves and to respect each other and to race in a fair way."
Maldonado, however, insists the Bahrain crash was simply "a normal race contact", and so he is critical of the new penalty system.
"We need to avoid the incident but at the same time (with penalty points) you cannot race," he told reporters on Thursday.
"We are racers and we are always risking. If you are competing, you need to take chances.
"So maybe they need to be slightly more flexible. That's my opinion."
Gutierrez is quoted by Brazil's Totalrace as suggesting the biggest problem with Maldonado is that he does not seem to be learning from his mistakes.
"It is pointless to discuss the television images, because they are clear," he said.
"That's the problem: it seems that Pastor is not recognising his mistakes, he sees things only from his side and I don't think that's right."
Maldonado, however, insisted the Bahrain rollover made the "light knock" appear more dramatic due to the new mandatory low noses on the cars this year.
"With the new noses, when we touched, the car took off. So for the spectator it was quite shocking," he is quoted by Brazil's Globo.
"I think the punishment was related to the magnitude of what we saw, not the contact itself," Maldonado added.
Pastor Maldonado has hit out at the new 'penalty points' system that could see him having to serve a race ban later in 2014.
After just the opening three Grands Prix of the season, the Venezuelan already has three 'demerit points' against his F1 super license.
Jules Bianchi, meanwhile, has four.
"I'm not sure if anyone will reach the full 12 but after three races, having four, then he should reach it very soon," Adrian Sutil said in China.
The most serious incident involving Lotus' Maldonado this year was in Bahrain, where contact with Esteban Gutierrez caused the Mexican to roll over.
But he also made a fundamental - and bizarre - mistake in Shanghai practice, when he took his eyes off the track and simply drove off it in a corner.
"I think it's a good system," Gutierrez, referring to penalty points, said in Shanghai.
"It puts some conscience on ourselves to not do wrong moves and to respect each other and to race in a fair way."
Maldonado, however, insists the Bahrain crash was simply "a normal race contact", and so he is critical of the new penalty system.
"We need to avoid the incident but at the same time (with penalty points) you cannot race," he told reporters on Thursday.
"We are racers and we are always risking. If you are competing, you need to take chances.
"So maybe they need to be slightly more flexible. That's my opinion."
Gutierrez is quoted by Brazil's Totalrace as suggesting the biggest problem with Maldonado is that he does not seem to be learning from his mistakes.
"It is pointless to discuss the television images, because they are clear," he said.
"That's the problem: it seems that Pastor is not recognising his mistakes, he sees things only from his side and I don't think that's right."
Maldonado, however, insisted the Bahrain rollover made the "light knock" appear more dramatic due to the new mandatory low noses on the cars this year.
"With the new noses, when we touched, the car took off. So for the spectator it was quite shocking," he is quoted by Brazil's Globo.
"I think the punishment was related to the magnitude of what we saw, not the contact itself," Maldonado added.
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Re: 2014 Formula One Discussion
Sebastian, Daniel is faster than you. Let him through
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Tough luck
>gets overtaken
>gets overtaken
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Lol, Go home Chilton, You're drunk
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But he would have Qualifyed 4th with his testing time!
http://www.f1zone.net/news/chilton-ends-first-day-of-testing-fastest/35065/
http://www.f1zone.net/news/chilton-ends-first-day-of-testing-fastest/35065/
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