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Post by crimson eagle73 Wed May 22, 2013 5:03 pm

So funny Envy. TV TV TV TV TV lol I have two of em at home, each with their own controller controller controller controller. Hey, they even show Sport sport sport sport when I want them to.

The thing that most impressed me was the kinect version 2. Seems really reponsive it can detect your heartbeat. That's pretty neat if they can make good games for it.

But I also share Envy's thoughts. If I pay for the game, my mates should be able to check it out on their own consoles before they buy. The new console should be backwards compatible seeing I still want to play my old library I spent lots of dollars on.

There is also something else no one has considered: The failure rate of the first xbox on launch was so high it wasn't funny. Red Rings. How do we know it's not going to happen again with a 20-30% fail rate? I reckon I will wait at least a year before I even consider it. If that means I miss guys here by still using forza 4, well, so be it

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Post by Dektra Wed May 22, 2013 5:05 pm

Also. It is widely regarded as the norm to show off some amazing things on your console that will lure people into wanting the damn thing. This however is the gaming equivalent of going to buy a brand new house and only being shown the toilet to get you interested... Not a sound business strategy in my opinion...

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Wed May 22, 2013 5:10 pm

Dektra wrote:Ok, but you have to post a video of you with a shoe on your head if it in fact is a massive fail in terms of consol usability.
deal!
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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Wed May 22, 2013 5:13 pm

crimson eagle73 wrote:So funny Envy. TV TV TV TV TV lol I have two of em at home, each with their own controller controller controller controller. Hey, they even show Sport sport sport sport when I want them to.

The thing that most impressed me was the kinect version 2. Seems really reponsive it can detect your heartbeat. That's pretty neat if they can make good games for it.

But I also share Envy's thoughts. If I pay for the game, my mates should be able to check it out on their own consoles before they buy. The new console should be backwards compatible seeing I still want to play my old library I spent lots of dollars on.

There is also something else no one has considered: The failure rate of the first xbox on launch was so high it wasn't funny. Red Rings. How do we know it's not going to happen again with a 20-30% fail rate? I reckon I will wait at least a year before I even consider it. If that means I miss guys here by still using forza 4, well, so be it
I heard that Microsoft won't be retiring the Xbox 360 so both consoles will still be in production, similar to the PS2/3 before they retired the PS2
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Post by Dektra Wed May 22, 2013 6:37 pm

So uh... The Xbox One's major draw card, TV TV TV TV TV, will only work in the states for the foreseeable future, as there has not been a date set for expansion to other regions...

Lucy O'Brien, Assistant Editor, IGN AU wrote:Xbox One's Live TV service will only be available in the United States at launch, with Microsoft 'anticipating global scale over time,' according to an official press release.

Xbox One Live TV, unveiled at Microsoft's recent Xbox One reveal event, will enable you to 'navigate and watch live TV from your cable, telco or satellite set-top box through your Xbox One.' The service is a big part of Microsoft's central message that the Xbox One will be an all-in-one games and entertainment device, so naturally the publisher is stressing its commitment to 'bringing live TV through various solutions to all the markets where Xbox One will be available.'

What's more, you won't even be able to get it out of the box! You'll need to get something else to get it to work! Ha what a joke!

Lucy O'Brien, Assistant Editor, IGN AU wrote:The service will not be supported out of the box; Xbox One Live TV will require a separate supported receiver device with HDMI output to work.
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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Wed May 22, 2013 7:18 pm

I'll just hook up my SKY(NZ version of FOXTEL) to mine.
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Post by Dazza4610 Wed May 22, 2013 7:24 pm

Yep, my Austar box has HDMI out, Xbox 1 has HDMI in and an IR blaster port. Sounds like a marriage to me.

At the moment I have the Austar connected to a PC with an IR blaster that changes the channels on the Austar box. I needed to get a HDMI filter so i can now record box office and pay per view but it all Works a treat, but it is now getting on about 5 years old. Already talking the boss in to the idea. Looking like she is on board. :-)

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Wed May 22, 2013 7:50 pm

Forgive me for being an idiot, but what is the IR port for?
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Post by NoRecoil Wed May 22, 2013 7:54 pm

By the sounds of things ill be going to PS4.

I have no faith in Turn 10 to make a game good enough to justify the purchase of the new Xbox TV Watercooler.

Title release games are always buggy and not made to the full potential of the console, expect a Re-Hash of F4 and nothing more
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Post by Dazza4610 Wed May 22, 2013 7:55 pm

NzLRyaNLzN wrote:Forgive me for being an idiot, but what is the IR port for?

I am assuming it is the same as the IR blaster I have on my windows media centre. It transmits the infra red signal, just like the remote controller does, so in stead of needing the remote to change channels the PC sends the IR signal. You stick the IR transmitter in front of the Austar box so it picks up the signal.

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Wed May 22, 2013 8:10 pm

NoRecoil wrote:By the sounds of things ill be going to PS4.

I have no faith in Turn 10 to make a game good enough to justify the purchase of the new Xbox TV Watercooler.

Title release games are always buggy and not made to the full potential of the console, expect a Re-Hash of F4 and nothing more
Have fun on Gran Turismo 6 Very Happy
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Post by mystery Wed May 22, 2013 8:16 pm

Dektra wrote:
NzLRyaNLzN wrote:Good talk guys. It's a shame no one sees the good in anything anymore

Not taking sides here, but what good points are there?

Yeah the graphics are good, but all the new gen consoles have stunning graphics = not a win over PS4

Exclusive Titles, apparently 15 exclusive titles... 15 games... that's an infinitesimal number compared to total games manufacture. many top titles will be multi platform, thus being on PC and/or PS4b = Not a win in general

More ergonomic controllers with flashy new buttons. aftermarket controllers already offer this, and anyone's hands that are too large to use the current controllers are likely to be 0.00001% of the population. (anyone on here in this category?)

feel free to offer up some good things... I'm struggling to see them.

Um it's new that's good as opposed to 8 years old and out of date.... perhaps you should state what expected.
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Post by Sleuth 101 Wed May 22, 2013 8:26 pm

It would really suck if the HDMI in only supported the xbox one live tv, be even worse if its not free to air. But then if you have foxtel austar and use that as hdmi in is there still a need for a IR signal, or is the IR signal there so you can use it for the xbox one live tv device only, makes you wonder if the hdmi in is only for xbox one live tv device and you then plug austar and cable into that device to get xbox one live tv on your tv.?
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Post by MadRacer38 Wed May 22, 2013 8:33 pm

NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
NoRecoil wrote:By the sounds of things ill be going to PS4.

I have no faith in Turn 10 to make a game good enough to justify the purchase of the new Xbox TV Watercooler.

Title release games are always buggy and not made to the full potential of the console, expect a Re-Hash of F4 and nothing more
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GT6 is going to be a PS3 release with a late PS4 release. Probably a year apart.
http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-on-gran-turismo-6-standardpremium-cars/
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Post by Envy The Best Wed May 22, 2013 11:05 pm

Because GT6 is the only racing game coming out for PS4, yeah? Project CARS would like a word.

MadRacer38 wrote:
NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
NoRecoil wrote:By the sounds of things ill be going to PS4.

I have no faith in Turn 10 to make a game good enough to justify the purchase of the new Xbox TV Watercooler.

Title release games are always buggy and not made to the full potential of the console, expect a Re-Hash of F4 and nothing more
Have fun on Gran Turismo 6 Very Happy

GT6 is going to be a PS3 release with a late PS4 release. Probably a year apart.
http://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-on-gran-turismo-6-standardpremium-cars/

And thats the dilemma. Buy it now on PS3, possibly with some issues, or wait for the PS4 version but a year after many people have had fun with it.

PD, Y U NO MAEK SENSE?
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Post by Zabbey21 Wed May 22, 2013 11:32 pm

Haven't made up my mind yet on PS4 or XBOX ONE. The new Xbox certainly looks aesthetically pleasing, and I'm looking forward to Forza 5. Will have to wait for full confirmed details on it.

I may be inclined to swing towards PS4 depending on pricing and other factors although, if no one here buys the latest gen Xbox console, does that mean we have to change our name to OZGT or OZPC? Or maybe even OZNFS?
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Post by Dazza4610 Thu May 23, 2013 5:01 am

Zabbey21 wrote:Haven't made up my mind yet on PS4 or XBOX ONE. The new Xbox certainly looks aesthetically pleasing, and I'm looking forward to Forza 5. Will have to wait for full confirmed details on it.

I may be inclined to swing towards PS4 depending on pricing and other factors although, if no one here buys the latest gen Xbox console, does that mean we have to change our name to OZGT or OZPC? Or maybe even OZNFS?

http://ozgt.forumotion.com/ This forum was created from a group of former/current OZFM members when GT5 was finally released. Might need a revive?

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Thu May 23, 2013 8:58 am

Sorry if this is gonna come across harsh, but you guys realize it was just the reveal right? Not everything they've done. And to be honest, what exactly makes the PS4 better than the Xbox ONE at the moment. They show the games at E3.< Yes Envy I said wait for E3, deal with it. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Dazza4610 Thu May 23, 2013 9:04 am

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Lots of TBAs on the PS4 side... makes it hard to really compare I guess.

Source - http://au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Comparison_Chart

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Thu May 23, 2013 9:07 am

Dazza4610 wrote:Forza Motorsport 5 Xbox One Announcement - Page 3 Xbox_110

Lots of TBAs on the PS4 side... makes it hard to really compare I guess.

Source - http://au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Comparison_Chart
I saw somewhere that you will be able to buy 360 games on the ONE
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Post by crimson eagle73 Thu May 23, 2013 10:28 am

NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
I saw somewhere that you will be able to buy 360 games on the ONE

Oh goodie. I get to pay for something I've already paid for if I want to play it on the new console. Please tell me how this is not a cash grab.

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Post by NzLRyaNLzN Thu May 23, 2013 10:58 am

crimson eagle73 wrote:
NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
I saw somewhere that you will be able to buy 360 games on the ONE

Oh goodie. I get to pay for something I've already paid for if I want to play it on the new console. Please tell me how this is not a cash grab.
Yeah i know, it's not great, but at least it's somewhat backwards compatible
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Post by Dektra Thu May 23, 2013 12:18 pm

Its not backwards compatible in any way. Its cash grabbing with title rerelease.
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Post by JamieWhincup#1 Thu May 23, 2013 12:24 pm

It's like EA has taken over Microsoft.
Anyways here's a cool pic from Forza 5.

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Post by mystery Thu May 23, 2013 12:34 pm

NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
crimson eagle73 wrote:
NzLRyaNLzN wrote:
I saw somewhere that you will be able to buy 360 games on the ONE

Oh goodie. I get to pay for something I've already paid for if I want to play it on the new console. Please tell me how this is not a cash grab.
Yeah i know, it's not great, but at least it's somewhat backwards compatible

That was my biggest disappointment when I heard this but actually I have heaps of older version games that I don't play and are collecting dust. I'm more interested in the new gen games/console than what I've been playing for the past.... years. If I had the One now I know which console I'd be on lol

I thought PS4 was going to have better specs than xbox so I'm pleasantly surprised by the chart Dazza posted.
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Post by Envy The Best Thu May 23, 2013 1:05 pm

That IGN chart doesn't tell the full story in terms of pure performance. They're both using AMD tech in their CPU's and GPU's, just that Microsoft is making a couple of minor adjustments to the AMD chip for reasons unknown as yet. I'm surprised since i would've thought at least one of them would have gone with a basic Intel i5 or some such, that would DEFINITELY give an advantage over the other in terms of pure performance. As it is the AMD chips going into the systems are only running at 1.6GHz.

As for the difference between DDR3 and DDR5 memory, read here

http://www.ibtimes.com/xbox-one-vs-ps4-full-specs-comparison-1275127

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156273-xbox-720-vs-ps4-vs-pc-how-the-hardware-specs-compare


Ultimately theres no reason to say one is ultimately more powerful than the other, as just like the 360 and the PS3 it all depends on how you use that power. At the moment it would be a fair assessment to say that they're both going to be extremely similar.

edit: Also, another good commentary
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Post by NoRecoil Thu May 23, 2013 1:43 pm

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this stat changes everything......

By the sounds of things the PS4 has no Transistors
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