braking line and its feasability
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The Double D
XYvSTUvYX
Lachy5
Paul
ThousandSumo
Dazza4610
Ruskovski
TEEROY 34
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Re: braking line and its feasability
can someone open up a thread on braking line and its feasability on being passed as a genuine real driving feature and move this over there.
I cannot hold my breathe any longer on this subject and the forcing of camera use.
Part of being a good driver, capable of Lobby 1 status, surely means knowing the track you're on.
knowing the bumps,
knowing the corners you can pinch kerbs on,
knowing kerbs you cannot touch,
knowing grippy spots,
knowing gradients on corners that will help or hinder a turn,
knowing which corners have 2-3 lines,
knowing which line you can use in an overtake or inside outside move etc etc
Is there not brake markers either over hanging or on the ground for most corners? if not, learn how to read your surroundings and find a brake marker, they are all there...brake line should be removed from any of our series events (maybe keep for the new casual driver events) imo
Forcing camera view - if i were forced to use in car cam after driving since FM2 on the rear of car cam, in no particular order
i will cause crashes all over the shop,
lose my general licence,
lose any OZFM pals who will no longer drive with me,
lose series points for reviews
anything else ....i cannot drive in car view, i also cannot drive with a hand controller simply becasue ive never done it since getting my steering wheel and FM2 bundle back in 1999 (feels like it anyway)
I can control my car & am a clean driver from the rear view and challenge anyone who says i would be better from in car, no chance, you cannot see around your vehicle, something that has caused most incidents in my time on OZFM again imo. People forever saying didnt know you were there.
I know where people are around my vehicle at all times, including knowing where the nose of my car is.
Let people drive with what they are comfortable with.
If you force car view then force controller type as well, tune as well etc etc
You cannot and will not have exact parity ever, it is the nature of motor racing, this is simulation racing and you cannot and will not get 100% parity you can only set guidelines to get as close as possible.
lighten up on the regs fellas, its getting a little ridiculous now..., well it was ridiculous a while ago,.... now its moving into insanity.
I cannot hold my breathe any longer on this subject and the forcing of camera use.
Part of being a good driver, capable of Lobby 1 status, surely means knowing the track you're on.
knowing the bumps,
knowing the corners you can pinch kerbs on,
knowing kerbs you cannot touch,
knowing grippy spots,
knowing gradients on corners that will help or hinder a turn,
knowing which corners have 2-3 lines,
knowing which line you can use in an overtake or inside outside move etc etc
Is there not brake markers either over hanging or on the ground for most corners? if not, learn how to read your surroundings and find a brake marker, they are all there...brake line should be removed from any of our series events (maybe keep for the new casual driver events) imo
Forcing camera view - if i were forced to use in car cam after driving since FM2 on the rear of car cam, in no particular order
i will cause crashes all over the shop,
lose my general licence,
lose any OZFM pals who will no longer drive with me,
lose series points for reviews
anything else ....i cannot drive in car view, i also cannot drive with a hand controller simply becasue ive never done it since getting my steering wheel and FM2 bundle back in 1999 (feels like it anyway)
I can control my car & am a clean driver from the rear view and challenge anyone who says i would be better from in car, no chance, you cannot see around your vehicle, something that has caused most incidents in my time on OZFM again imo. People forever saying didnt know you were there.
I know where people are around my vehicle at all times, including knowing where the nose of my car is.
Let people drive with what they are comfortable with.
If you force car view then force controller type as well, tune as well etc etc
You cannot and will not have exact parity ever, it is the nature of motor racing, this is simulation racing and you cannot and will not get 100% parity you can only set guidelines to get as close as possible.
lighten up on the regs fellas, its getting a little ridiculous now..., well it was ridiculous a while ago,.... now its moving into insanity.
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braking line and its feasability
Yeah I can host room 2
I'll still race with you Mr T! I drive in car and still T-bone people on the odd occasion
lose any OZFM pals who will no longer drive with me
I'll still race with you Mr T! I drive in car and still T-bone people on the odd occasion
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on ya ruski! i knew i liked you, haha
My game even told me i was a volvo fan the other day too.
My game even told me i was a volvo fan the other day too.
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Re: braking line and its feasability
There you go Teeroy, Debate away.
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Re: braking line and its feasability
Locking the view to any one position will NOT reduce crashing. Crashing occurs because people behind are careless and irresponsible and people in front aren't courteous and professional. I know when I'm about to get overtaken and choose to either fight, or let the position go.
Turning off the braking line, whilst desirable, is not practical. I get a limited amount of time each week to learn and track/car combinations. Each car/track combo is very different so the little help the braking line offers is invaluable.
And I'd just like to remind everyone, this is a computer game. If I wanted a super-serious race game I'd join the neck-beards on the PCs and build a balsa wood racing car bed and wear race team apparel...
Turning off the braking line, whilst desirable, is not practical. I get a limited amount of time each week to learn and track/car combinations. Each car/track combo is very different so the little help the braking line offers is invaluable.
And I'd just like to remind everyone, this is a computer game. If I wanted a super-serious race game I'd join the neck-beards on the PCs and build a balsa wood racing car bed and wear race team apparel...
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Re: braking line and its feasability
I race in cab and I know where everyone around me are. I don't care what others preferences are so long as we are all having fun.
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Re: braking line and its feasability
i dont understand why we should force anybody to use any set restrictions.
so what if I use braking line, and use the behind car camera. if i can compete at the right speed and not cause crashes then i should be in whatever room im in.
lobby 1 should be for guys who are of the same speed and skill, not the guys who can best adapt to given restrictions.
if your fast enough (and clean enough), your good enough
so what if I use braking line, and use the behind car camera. if i can compete at the right speed and not cause crashes then i should be in whatever room im in.
lobby 1 should be for guys who are of the same speed and skill, not the guys who can best adapt to given restrictions.
if your fast enough (and clean enough), your good enough
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Re: braking line and its feasability
THAT'S RACING
XYvSTUvYX- OZFM Legend & Hall of Famer
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Re: braking line and its feasability
maybe we need a poll on this one admin?
seems to be a few people saying that the restrictions proposed may be a little bit over the top?
im not too sure, but i agree with all the above comments/posts
Chill Winston!! no need for so many rules mon!
seems to be a few people saying that the restrictions proposed may be a little bit over the top?
im not too sure, but i agree with all the above comments/posts
Chill Winston!! no need for so many rules mon!
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Re: braking line and its feasability
teeroy well said mate, love your work
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Re: braking line and its feasability
just let people run the series how they want, they'll learn from how many people sign up, and all the moaning from who signed up if they made the right choice, some people just really have to be in control of everything
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Re: braking line and its feasability
TEEROY 34 wrote:maybe we need a poll on this one admin?
seems to be a few people saying that the restrictions proposed may be a little bit over the top?
im not too sure, but i agree with all the above comments/posts
Chill Winston!! no need for so many rules mon!
Och, I knew we'd end up having fun with this one as soon as Recoil posted it and I responded with my "comments".
Just disappointed my post didn't make it to this thread. But never mind you're doing ok without me.
Do we really need a poll on this?
I kinda think the posts we're seeing already show that the people prepared to express an opinion don't want any more restricions imposed on the way they race.
That said, a series organiser can set up the regs however they want and the players have the right to choose if they'll participate or not.
Maybe leave the ultra restricted rules to the elite level, if the majority of them want it.
But my overall impression from most guys on OZFM over the years is that they want clean, close, competitive racing that they can ENJOY and have FUN doing it.
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Re: braking line and its feasability
+1 to all the above
Restrictions won't help anyone get faster...
Restrictions won't help anyone get faster...
stikman- 2 x World Champ
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Maybe we need a poll to see if we need a poll.
I have to stop thinking like I am at work....
I have to stop thinking like I am at work....
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Re: braking line and its feasability
We should have a meeting so that we can decide whether the first poll to poll is feasible..
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Re: braking line and its feasability
FrankTank wrote:We should have a meeting so that we can decide whether the first poll to poll is feasible..
hahahah yeah its getting that way isn't it?
I have a great idea, why don't you all just stop worrying about this & go sign up for the GT Series, I haven't even banned TCS there yet
Blantant series plug FTW!!
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haha u banning abs ?
The Double D- World Champion
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Original Reapr wrote: go sign up for the GT Series
Ummm, I guess I should unlock the sign up thread then... lol
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The Double D wrote:haha u banning abs ?
Anybody that has abs should be banned
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Re: braking line and its feasability
i figure it u want to brake slower into a corner then go for it ?
The Double D- World Champion
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I wasn't talking about ABS - I was talking about abdominals.. They should be banned.
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lol sorry, im off in my own planet
The Double D- World Champion
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poll to poll racing?
is that like point to point? haha
and no mention of TCS wow
is that like point to point? haha
and no mention of TCS wow
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You're just stirring now T
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