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Post by Dazza4610 Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:18 pm

NoRecoil wrote:Ill check out the Merc for ya hillcrest. Ill be on soon

Count the doors on it too... I had a bit of a look this morning and unless I am looking at the wrong car (quite possible), it only has 2 doors.


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Post by NoRecoil Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:26 pm

E36 is the same as the on used in V8's, DLC in latest pack. Ill check though

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Post by TheSwatDx Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:28 pm

Might make up each one of these cars tonight and have some runs with my cousin
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Post by hillcrest Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:57 pm

Thanks guys, I wont be on tonight as Im at the missus' place but I had a play around with the lexus today. Swapped out race weight reduction for Sport putting into the high 1500s and added some power. Made it a lot more even and close to the Holden, still needs a bit of work. Building isn't my strong point especially when it comes to the tire width so all help is greatly appreciated!
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Post by NoRecoil Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:00 pm

E63
Has turbos, cant be removed.
Gains 130kg when converted from 4wd (WTF)
315 max Rear Tyres
285 max Front Tyres

With all the race car bits (cage, tyres, weight reduction, springs, brakes, max race tyres) its:
1671kg
422kw
826nm
Race exhaust as only power upgrade
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Post by hillcrest Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:55 pm

Thanks for checking that out recoil? How does it perform against the other cars?
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Post by TheSwatDx Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:25 pm

Well the BMW has turbo as well doesn't it? Sounds like it when I'm racing, as that's the only one I've tried so far
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Post by surferofthemind Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:49 pm

NoRecoil wrote:E63
Gains 130kg when converted from 4wd (WTF)
RWD conversions are not as simple as removing the front diff and drive shafts in FM5. Seems to replace the entire drive system on the car as the gearbox and diff options are different that the options available on the stock drive. All the swaps can really change the car, FWD with 62% front with a V6 RWD swap moves to 51% front.
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Post by hillcrest Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:13 pm

Yeah the Beemer has a turbo, it ends up having a higher PI than the others and slightly faster round bathurst with the others from my testing.
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Post by TheSwatDx Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:40 pm

Yeah was training with my cousin, I was running the 690 BMW while he drove the FG v8 supercar around the round 5 track and I beat him so got some decent speed
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Post by TheSwatDx Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:57 am

has anyone sorted out the Audi or the Merc? with all the parts needed?
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Post by hillcrest Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:29 am

Got a base for the Audi, Havent seriously tested it yet as I've been messing with the builds a little bit to see if I can make the cars closer, I'll check it out tomorrow and post the build
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Post by TheSwatDx Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:46 am

Thanks bud. As I've built all of these cars. Haven't given them a go yet though
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Post by hillcrest Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:47 pm

Just about finished with some tweaks to the builds. I'll have them up within the next few days hopefully.The holden turned out to be the fastest in its current build so ive adjusted the builds (mainly adding power) to suit. I'm hoping to have a test night on sunday night, if anyone wants to jump in I'll have a lobby up.

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Post by Nick Bear Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:42 pm

If im on ill jump in test them out, keen to give them a go
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Post by hillcrest Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:50 pm

Op updated with final builds

Also I don't think I'll be able to do a test session tonight, I only just got the builds finalised and am totally burnt out on these cars haha

Sorry to anyone who was keen
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Post by TheSwatDx Sun Apr 13, 2014 9:13 pm

No good with the Audi or merc?
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Post by hillcrest Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:38 am

The Audi just didn't work, after the engine swap and drivetrain swap just puts it's PI way too high and it ends up in the middle of S class after tyres, drivetrain and body upgrades.

I can't test the merc because I don't have the DLC but if enough people want it in I'm happy to have someone build one, I think recoil may have put one together but I remember it being really heavy
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Post by CosmicChimera Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:55 pm

Nice work Hillcrest - I just built all of these and found them to be within 1 sec on Alps Festival after 1 hot lap with no tuning at all. All seem quite different so should be interesting once tuning starts.
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Post by Frozen Catalyst Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:09 pm

The merc I built to these specs I was able to run similar times to yourself Hillcrest.

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Post by hillcrest Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:54 pm

Sweet! I bit the bullet and bought the car pack that it was in, put a quick build on it and it was already running a second faster than the others. So even with the extra 130 kilos it can still be very competitive. Could you please PM me your build Frozen!
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Post by Frozen Catalyst Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:57 pm

Sure will do.

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Post by hillcrest Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Thanks frozen! I built it up but I won't be able to give it a run until I get back from holiday. Now that the builds have come together what tracks, format and race night would people like?

I was thinking of running the series over 4 rounds, 2 sprint (2x12 lap races), 1 Enduro (25-30 lap race) and 1 super sprint (3x9 lap races)

For tracks I was thinking Yas Corkscrew (S), Long Beach Full (SS), Silverstone Full (S) and Bathurst (E)

What night would people want to race this? I can't host in Mondays or Thursdays due to work but any other day is fine!

Let me know what you guys think and if any one has any suggestions
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Post by hillcrest Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:14 pm

After some testing and thinking I'm not going to include the Merc, for this series anyway. I'd definitely look into including it in the future If a second series was to be ran. Frozen's build was pretty spot on, though the main reason I'm not going to include it is that it doesn't fit into the specs that I set in the original post and I'd like to keep it to the native RWD cars for the time being.

When it comes to format I'm pretty set on the Sprint, Super Sprint and Endurance Format. Some things I'd like to trial with this series. I'd like to run this on Tuesday nights after Dektra's Muscle Car Masters but thats up to the admins

Cars:
2012 BMW M5
2012 Chrysler SRT8
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2011 Holden HSV GTS
2009 Lexus ISF

Each car may be picked 4 times until it becomes locked.

Teams will be supported, teams do no need to be running the same paintjob but must run the same car. There will be a teams championship alongside a drivers championship.

Series format:
The series will be ran over 4 rounds and 7 weeks with 3 different formats; Sprint (2x 15 laps). Super Sprint (3x10 laps), Endurance (1x30 laps) Qualifying for the sprint and super sprint rounds will be ran a week before the the race. Qualifying for the endurance round will be ran on the night. Qualifying for the first round will also take the place of a qualifying round. Should there be enough signups for 2 rooms they will still be split into the faster guys in room 1 and slower guys in room 2 but there will be floating lobbies and final positions will be sorted by total time.

Qualifying format:
Sprint:
2x 15 minute sessions.
2x Top 5 shootout (1 out lap 1 hotlap)

Super Sprint:
3x10 minute sessions

Endurance:
1x 15 minute session
1x Top 5 shootout (1 out lap 1 hotlap)

Race Schedule
Round 1: Yas Marina Corkscrew (Sprint)
Round 2: Long Beach Full (Super Sprint)
Round 3 Silverstone GP (Sprint)
Round 4 Bathurst (Endurance)

Race Format.
Races will include 1 formation lap to set the grid, races will start when the timer hits 5 minutes. As there will be no reverse grid races there will be mandatory pit stops keep the racing close and allow the slower guys to compete. Sprint: 3 mandatory pit stops for the round, Super sprint: 1 pitstop for the round, Endurance: 1 stop. (if this idea isn't popular and will stop people from signing up I'll scrap the concept)

Rounds:
Round 1: Yas Marina Corkscrew (Sprint)
Round 2: Long Beach Full (Super Sprint)
Round 3: Silverstone Full (Sprint)
Round 4: Bathurst (Endurance)
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Post by Dektra Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:45 pm

Looks good mate
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Post by TheSwatDx Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:50 pm

I'm.all down for this. Like that you went with my idea about starting at one specific time and having the total time determine what place you come
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Post by hillcrest Sun May 11, 2014 10:49 pm

Some Issues with the builds has arisen. Mainly in regards to the BMW being quite a bit faster and tyre width. Issues are being looked at by myself and other members. If you want to contribute to the build of the cars please build the current builds up, test them and tell me how you go with them and any suggestions to make towards the builds.

Builds are not my strong point when it comes to Forza, which makes it a bit of a problem when you have so many ideas for series haha.
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