Re: Formula 1 2012

by **Envy The Best** Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:39 pm

After watching Singapore last night then racing the track, i'm pretty sure that either the tracks aren't 100% accurate or the physics is just....standard, run of the mill, nothing special.

Like going through the tight chicane, you can practically flat run it straight through in third compared to second that the drivers were doing in the actual race.

by **JamieWhincup#1** Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:54 pm

The tracks are definitely not 100%. Let's compare Hockenhiem, We know T10 laser scaned it but comparing it to F1 2012 they are totaly different tracks same with all of the other tracks that are in both Forza and F1 2012.

The thing with Codemasters is that they water their games down so much, they make it so every other 2 year old can play it which sucks Rolling Eyes

But in saying that it's still a fun game to play, but then again I might be a 2yo Razz

by **Dazza4610** Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:16 pm

by Guest Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:29 pm

Haha Daz real funny i'm sorry I like to race as simulation as I can.

by Guest Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:32 pm

But guys is the new F1 any good might get it myself what you guys think overall of the game.

by **Dazza4610** Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:11 pm

IWINNUMBER1 wrote:i'm sorry I like to race as simulation as I can.

We know... Rolling Eyes

Just as a side question... do the real F1 cars use ABS and TCS? What about auto clutch?

by Guest Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:14 pm

I'll look that up actully see if theirs any regs on the website

by **JamieWhincup#1** Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:35 pm

Dazza4610 wrote:
IWINNUMBER1 wrote:i'm sorry I like to race as simulation as I can.

We know...

Just as a side question... do the real F1 cars use ABS and TCS? What about auto clutch?

Are you serious.

by Guest Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:37 pm

Yep they do this is true use TC but I guess to this day thats why they consider Ayrton Senna one of the best of all time as the way he could dance the car around corners at the speed he could go was god like because the older f1 cars had more power and less downforce less grip most of the f1 today know how hard it is to drive those older f1 everyone knows thats why most of the f1 drivers of today respect those guys cause they know how hard it was to drive cars with twice the hp and less down with no tc or anything.

But Dazza you got a point still they do use assists but if f1 drivers 20years + ago were driving cars with twice the hp and less downforce really on paper the f1 of today even without assist would be much easyer to drive then the old onesso why bring tc or any assist into it it must be a safety thing i'm guessing.

But still id like to see them take it away but f1 regs are f1 regs thats it dont matter what I think thats for all the big shots that make the rules.

by **Mike0707** Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:39 pm

Envy The Best wrote:After watching Singapore last night then racing the track, i'm pretty sure that either the tracks aren't 100% accurate or the physics is just....standard, run of the mill, nothing special.

Like going through the tight chicane, you can practically flat run it straight through in third compared to second that the drivers were doing in the actual race.

You mean the singapore sling part?

by **JamieWhincup#1** Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:44 pm

IWINNUMBER1 wrote:Yep they do this is true use TC but I guess to this day thats why they consider Ayrton Senna one of the best of all time as the way he could dance the car around corners at the speed he could go was god like because the older f1 cars had more power and less downforce less grip most of the f1 today know how hard it is to drive those older f1 everyone knows thats why most of the f1 drivers of today respect those guys cause they know how hard it was to drive cars with twice the hp and less down with no tc or anything.

But Dazza you got a point still they do use assists but if f1 drivers 20years + ago were driving cars with twice the hp and less downforce really on paper the f1 of today even without assist would be much easyer to drive then the old onesso why bring tc or any assist into it it must be a safety thing i'm guessing.

But still id like to see them take it away but f1 regs are f1 regs thats it dont matter what I think thats for all the big shots that make the rules.

Don't know where you're getting your info from but there are absolutely no driver aids/assists in the form of ABS,TC or STM F1.

by **wylie27** Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:46 pm

dazza,

Traction Control was initially banned in 2001 along with other driver aids. however it was reintroduced later on i think 2005 after the last ban found that a couple of teams had the program in their ECU but "not being used"

It was finally banned again in 2008 when FIA introduced controlled ECU's.

So to answer your question, F1 cars do not use traction control.

by Guest Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:08 pm

mmmm ok so it's the ECU system thanks for that Wylie must of missed the last few lines oops it happens.

by **Dazza4610** Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:33 pm

Thanks guys...

Do they use Auto clutch, or is it like the V8s with an ignition cut switch type thingy?

by **JamieWhincup#1** Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:38 pm

Dazza4610 wrote:Thanks guys...

Do they use Auto clutch, or is it like the V8s with an ignition cut switch type thingy?

Sort of. The only time they use a clutch is from a standing start which is a paddle on the back of the steering wheel.

by **Dazza4610** Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:40 pm

Well thanks... I have to say this place has all the answers, thanks Clarko

by **JamieWhincup#1** Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Dazza4610 wrote:Well thanks... I have to say this place has all the answers, thanks Clarko

by **sillybilly77** Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:38 pm

IWINNUMBER1 wrote:Yep they do this is true use TC but I guess to this day thats why they consider Ayrton Senna one of the best of all time as the way he could dance the car around corners at the speed he could go was god like because the older f1 cars had more power and less downforce less grip most of the f1 today know how hard it is to drive those older f1 everyone knows thats why most of the f1 drivers of today respect those guys cause they know how hard it was to drive cars with twice the hp and less down with no tc or anything.

But Dazza you got a point still they do use assists but if f1 drivers 20years + ago were driving cars with twice the hp and less downforce really on paper the f1 of today even without assist would be much easyer to drive then the old onesso why bring tc or any assist into it it must be a safety thing i'm guessing.

But still id like to see them take it away but f1 regs are f1 regs thats it dont matter what I think thats for all the big shots that make the rules.

Back in the old days people even manually punctuated their sentences?

I think the "Senna Effect" is a bit amusing... awesome drivers, but weird how he gets religious style follows.

Anyway check out some videos comparing laps at monaco. The newer cars are so fast it is crazy – I think most of the old drivers still around should be respecting the skills of the modern drivers, with exception of a few crazy's who are allowed to get a bit nostalgic / senile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCqoivFA94&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cli2XEoca24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxLIOnNLbWo

I personally think you could find some awesome driving / racing skills demonstrated in any era of Formula 1 / Grand Prix racing. The game changes and the specific skills that result in success vary but the best driver are always impressive.

I love to see footage of pre-aero cars from the sixties and some of the old front engined skinny wheeled cars from the 30s (?) - insanity!

by **sempeR** Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Who wants to play this tonight??

by **GOWIE22** Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:38 pm

by **Gun Fir3** Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:24 pm

totally went and bought it the other day. Loving it!

Def keen for a few races but my Internet is down atm. Need to fix it up... again.

by **GOWIE22** Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:55 pm

as jst found out u beat vettel in career as a rival u get his seat and webber is ur teammate

by **Sleuth 101** Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:41 am

Intersting read back in the thread, bit over that Rolling Eyes

But wondering if anyone is still playing this?

Be good if we could get some multiplayer going sometime or if anyone is interested in a co-op on the xbox.

by **STONDKIWI** Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:48 pm

Ill be keen as this weekend.havent had much time to get on it.
I h8 work so bad i just wanna stab it but i love $$$

by **Sleuth 101** Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:03 am

Sadly doesn't seem there is much interest for this among OZfmers, Does any one know of any Australian Leauges to join and race these in a series like event?

by **Reaps** Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:53 am

still interest SG1 and yes you werent the only one over all the silly tit for tat earlier in this thread hence deletions etc. i just wanna race and have fun happy to with anyone like minded :-)

As for IWINNOONE's comments earlier.. 1st...ROFL Very Happy

2nd... YES get the game ALOT more people use no braking line/no assists at all on f1 the game than on forza... i.e no more crutch/excuses as to why you arent number 1 on the leaderboards or in a race, if you cant get there than its only because someone else did a better job and not because they are apparantely using an assist that you arent (i think its safe to say everyone knows you race with no braking line LOL or is there actually someone that plays forza that you havent felt the need to mention this to?) ... also what works as a setup for leaderboards usually doesnt translate as a race setup so you actually have to race too, and in varying weather and grip conditions, not just hotlap. Wink

by **Dazza4610** Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:39 am

Can't say I am no longer interested... just don't have much time at the moment. Not even enough time for Forza.

Jumped on this morning to have a look at Horizon Rally... now back to my jobs around the house before Xmas.

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