Fanatec Game Gear

Dazza4610 wrote:Yay, welcome to the club mate.

Dazza, that should have read

"yay, welcome to the club-sport".

RU

RU four 86 wrote:

Dazza4610 wrote:Yay, welcome to the club mate.

Dazza, that should have read

"yay, welcome to the club-sport".

RU

U R Right, or is that RU is right.

good decision clarkson

after all the wait for the GT2's, god only knows how long the wait would be for a CSR's,

im gagging for that handbrake tho, be awesome to swing a 180 in front of that veteran and take him out

Just posted this up on Pagnian's Facebook site to enter a comp he has running. Thought you guys might like a look at where Dazza spends most nights.

Oh go to Pagnian's Facebook and "Like" my pic. If I win I will donate the $50 voucher to the next OZFM FM4 V8 prize pool.

whats the comp about mate

setup or something?

RU

Yep, he just wants a picture of your setup. I am guess to he is hoping to gain some exposure.

aren't you lucky I don't Face!

and sorry I can't vote for ya either

RU

News on the fanatec handbrake, and also check out the racing rig directly after the fanatec handbrake article.

http://www.racesimcentral.com/news/category/hardware/

Well spotted again Arckon, you keep finding them.

Dazza4610 wrote:Yep, he just wants a picture of your setup. I am guess to he is hoping to gain some exposure.

Dazza's entry is here

Chris (OD)

I have also put up picks of my setup.. guess the more pics we have on there fb page the more chances one of us have to win .. donating it ofcourse to one of the next series on FM4 ..

good point Don!

Ill get the misses to use her Facebook account to load my setup too

RU

Arckon wrote:News on the fanatec handbrake, and also check out the racing rig directly after the fanatec handbrake article.

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I had another look at the new race seat designs on this link and am surprised Playseat opted for a centre post design.

For anyone thinking of a seat designed this way, my current "interim" seat for the GT2 wheel is basically the same style and I find the centre post does get in the way a bit when operating the clubsport 3 pedal system -especially when trying to heel and toe. I don't think it'd be a problem for a 2 pedal system. My permanent rig won't have a centrepost.

I've had the Fanatec for a while too. It's awesome quality and while is great that it doesn't do all the random disconnecting/button pushing the old MS wheel did, I'm a little dissapointed that I haven't noticed any difference in laptimes. In fact, I don't think I've done a PB on any leaderboards since getting it.

It's also a tad annoying having to constantly reverse the gear shifters to suit the sequential shifter then having to change it back when you need to use the flappy paddles. (Usually I only remember this after I've started the race and I slam it into reverse taking out half the field... )

That's enough complaining I guess, These are the settings I'm using:

Wheel
Sen - 430
FF - 40
Sho - 90
dri - 002
Abs - 90
Lin - 30
dEA - 000
SPr - 0
dPr - 0

Game
Steering deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 100
Accel deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 90 (-0 -60 when using a prototype with TCS)
Dec deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 80
Clutch IN -0 OUT - 70
Vibration - 100
FF - 100

If had known what I know now and with the price it was... I doubt I would have gotten it. That's just me though. I'm not having a go at the wheel, I think it's an amazing bit of kit but yeah, I guess it's not quite what I expected.

The Jester Race wrote:I've had the Fanatec for a while too. It's awesome quality and while is great that it doesn't do all the random disconnecting/button pushing the old MS wheel did, I'm a little dissapointed that I haven't noticed any difference in laptimes. In fact, I don't think I've done a PB on any leaderboards since getting it.

It's also a tad annoying having to constantly reverse the gear shifters to suit the sequential shifter then having to change it back when you need to use the flappy paddles. (Usually I only remember this after I've started the race and I slam it into reverse taking out half the field... )

I understand where you're coming from Jester, I've had similar. But I won't say I'm disappointed with my results since getting the GT2. Accepting that it'd take some time to get used to the different feel and controls after 2 years using the M$ wheel and pedals and having to take a hit on results while I work my way through that. I think the improvements will come from better steering and brake feel which will help me improve my control of the car. For me the foot clutch is still a weak point after the button on the old wheel.

As for wheel set up, there's so much option for different wheel and game settings its hard to know how someone elses rig works.

My wheel settings are :
Sen - 300
FF - 70
Sho - 100
dri - 001
Abs - 80
Lin - 0
dEA - 000
SPr - 0
dPr - 0
CS brake pedal set to minimum pressure

Game:
Steering deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 100
Accel deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 95
Dec deadzone IN - 0 OUT - 95
Clutch IN -50 OUT - 50
Vibration - 100
FF - 55-60
I find thats giving good feel without the steering being too heavy, the steering rotation close to the old M$ wheel helped a lot. But I think I'll still be tweaking it for a while yet.

EDIT: As for the sequential shifter, I have the same issue with it. Having to reverse the game shift settings and then using the paddles (Noooooo) is just wrong. I'm staying with using the paddles for now. But am looking at mounting the sequential backward or have a look inside and switch the wiring/contacts. Don't know if either of those options is any good for you?

I guess "dissapointed" wasn't really the right word. All I really heard from people before was stuff like "Omg Dude, the GT2 is like 5 seconds quicker than the MS wheel!!!" So to get it and basically do the exact same laptimes was... interesting.

One big thing for me though is with the MS wheel, I had to use 200% braking pressure. I couldn't drive any car with out it and not having a clue on how to tune not being able to use SF tunes made life a bit tricky. I'm now down to around 120% - 130% and can use the brake pedal proportionally rather than the "on/off" switch it was like with the MS wheel.

The look left and look right button on the wheel are an absolute godsend too. It was something I really missed when I went from the controller to the wheel.

Yeah, I thought about using the foot clutch with the paddles but not only does it feel weird, it's nowhere near as fun as using the sequential shifter. Driving one handed leads to more accidents and mistakes but I paid $800 for the damn clutch and shifter thing I'm going to use it. Only use the flappy paddles for the prototypes so it's not a massive pain, just a slight one every now and then.

I spose when I really think about it it was worth the money... I don't know... each to their own I guess.

i struggled for top 100 times with the MS wheel but can do resonably well with the fanatec these days, i need to do more hotlapping tho to show it, done well on maple and sedona so far

as for the shifter's, i've kind of found them a pain to use for FM3, especially on launch its very slow but catching up again dont seem a problem but generally they have been shelved, and because it feels like im gonna break them, tho you do have to use H pattern shifter to even use the clutch in GT5
mainly clutch and paddles seem the way to go for anything below A class, above that i dont really use clutch, to slow for the faster cars

setting's

sen's 360 sometimes using 540 or 720, depends sometimes on type of car/class
FF 80
sho 100
drift 0
ABS 80
lin 0
dea 0
spr 0
dpr 2- i like the heavier feel to the steering

EDIT: ive taken the lil blocks from behind acc and clutch pedals so they sit flat on the main bar, note put blocks behind the bar to tighten back up

Let's not forget that the old M$ wheel and the controller both have drivers designed by turn 10 or ms for FM3, the fanatec dons't. Yet!

I am expecting with the release of FM4 and with the inclusion of 2 FM4 fanatec wheels to the lineup to see better software support and hence better drivability in the game.

Like all things, time will tell...

RU

RU, wasnt the GT2 designed with forza 3 in mind tho, well thats what all the testing was done on, guessing the current drivers are based on it anyway????
dont flame me, just something mr endor say's in one of his youtube clips

The M$ wheel was designed for FM2 wasn't it (I think I bought it bundled) - FM3 was all about the Fanatec PWTS. In fact that's what they displayed with at E3 2009

yeah i got my current xbox, MS wheel and FM2 lce when it came, your right frank it was the PWTS, my bad

I was talking to hess today & he said FM4 wheels [CRS] are a long way of getting here & cost wood be alot more expensive than GT2 wheel, due to importing into aus. So don`t hold your breath & i hope you have a very healthy bank balance, that`s even if he gets them at all. Unless somebody else is getting them, cheeper & quicker. Good luck with that, if that`s the way you were thinking. Cheers, drinkup & see you on the road.

my thought was the CSR's wont be here till FM5

My new rig - just waiting the GT2, and CSP .... Hasn't made me any faster - but it's awesome fun....

JEALOUS!

Now that is Nice!
It must be fun racing in that rig Frank!

gud 0l stoner wrote:RU, wasnt the GT2 designed with forza 3 in mind tho, well thats what all the testing was done on, guessing the current drivers are based on it anyway????
dont flame me, just something mr endor say's in one of his youtube clips

could have been, its just my uneducated comment

Im assuming that fanatec has been supported in FM3, maybe in the way of a firmware chip and emulation to use the m$ wheel drivers, but based on the current comments about lack of "reversing" switch for the sequ shifter, the non-support for SPr & DPr "only noticeable in PS3 made" (quote from fanatec manual). I assume the wheel not fully supported in FM3.

After I read the article about the new Club-handbrake,
Fanatec announced in the GTPlanet forums: “We managed to convince Microsoft that the handbrake is now a standard feature implemented into the console so it is easy to support and we will send samples to all relevant publishers." I again assume that better driver support will be in FM4.

my fuzzy logic suggests that controller support in FM4 needs to be better because now turn10 are putting their name "FM4" on the wheel, and nobody is going to be happy if you can race an old m$ wheel faster than a new $$$$ fanatec one!

RU